You said: “The reason the women were included in the “to be destroyed” command is because they led Israelites into sexual immorality – not simply because they were of a different religion.”
The Bible clearly says the women got the Israelites to worship their God: “He said, ‘Why have you spared the lives of all these women? They were the very ones who, on Balaam’s advice, caused the Israelites to be unfaithful to Yahweh in the affair at Poor; hence the plague which struck Yahweh’s community (Numbers 31:15-16). If you check what this affair was in Numbers 25:1:3 you’ll see the prostitution is not sexual immorality but rather the Israelites prostituting themselves to Baal: “With Israel thus committed to Baal of Peor, Yahweh’s anger was aroused against them” (Numbers 25:3). That could not be any clearer. The Israelites had adopted another religion, one that worshiped a dying a resurrecting savior Baal, who was born to the virgin mother Asherah, a female deity the Israelites also worshiped.

But let’s say the reason was the one you gave, sexual immorality. You think women who seduced men were justifiably destroyed. I’m sick and delusional? On what basis do women deserve the death penalty for seducing willing male partners? You call yourself “pro-life” too! Should prostitutes get the death penalty in the United States?

You said: “The young virgins were not among the guilty or vengeful.

Oh really? You don’t think young women who just saw their entire family slaughtered and community wiped would not be vengeful? I don’t know what kosher guidelines have to do with the senseless slaughter of animals. I forgot this was the rare instance where God didn’t tell the Israelites to kill everything that breathed like he usually did. Most of the time the animals were killed too. The point is killing doesn’t bother you if it is done in the name of religion. How are you any different from Muslims who support the actions of terrorists and suicide bombers? The answer is you’re not. You’re just as much of a dangerous fanatic as any Muslim who condones killing to further their religion.

Baggins: “From what I’ve read the people who did not want to fight a war against the Israelites were given a chance to flee and people who wanted mercy were given it. The people who wanted the Israelites destroyed fought…and they were the ones destroyed. The women were guilty.”

What crime did the women commit that deserved the death penalty Mr. Pro Life?

The following statement proves you do not and cannot think about what you say: “The male children had no care-taker left – they were mercifully killed rather than abandoned to the wild. The young virgins could serve the Israelites in peace and eventually could be child bearing mothers I suppose.”

Mercifully killed? Somehow you can justify the “merciful” killing of young male children simply because they had no one who wanted to take care of them. But if a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy because she doesn’t want to or cannot take care of a child you call her a murderer. Do you want to tell me how you can so easily justify killing small children and then rage about abortion, which happens to be legal? In other words can you explain to us all how you can be such a hypocrite and stand to live with yourself? Young virgins will willingly bear the children of the men who murdered their families. Sure they will. Only in your religious fantasy.

You said: “Rape is a violation of God’s law and I have no reason to think that that was necessary for them to live in peace with the Israelites – for them to be tamed.”

Human beings are not herd animals who need to be tamed. And again what woman is going to willingly have relations with the looters and pillagers that murdered her entire family? You are living in some kind of religious fantasyland where any atrocity, any absurdity, any lie can easily be justified because it’s all for the greater good of spreading your religion.
You said: “Rape didn’t happen, and if it did those responsible will be brought to justice. The simple fact is that a immoral tribe at war with the Israelites lost – justice was served.”

Where in the Bible does it say rape did not happen? I have news for you. People who attack other people, kill them all and take their land are immoral. It doesn’t matter if they believe they are doing it because their God wants them to. It’s still immoral. What justice was served exactly?
I would expect an un-American coward to respond like this: “The tribe didn’t have to face destruction, they could have ran away or begged for mercy – they chose to fight and they lost Gurgus.”

Is that what you would do if your community were attacked by a bunch of religious fanatics bent on wiping out all competing religions including yours and forcing theirs on everyone? Would you just run away or beg for mercy like the coward we’ve already established you are? You sure think just like a coward.

You ask: “Why do you pretend this is some sort of illegitimate rampage on the part of the Israelites?”

How is taking land from people by killing them a legitimate rampage? What justification do you give for the Israelites taking land that wasn’t theirs and killing people minding their own business? You say my interpretation of this ancient war is wild and insane? You’re the one who thinks he can justify this war of aggression. Go ahead try because only sick and delusional people try to justify wars of aggression. So have it. Tell us all why killing people for the sake of religion is a good thing and a pro-life position.

Then you make this misstatement: “I strive to understand things myself, and not just take people’s words for it.

Sure you do. Who told you that the stories in the Bible were true? Somebody had to tell you that, you didn’t come up with that yourself. Nobody does, that’s part of the religious indoctrination by other believers you succumbed to. What’s funny about this whole thing is you think I’m dead wrong. You have no idea how far off you really are. What evidence from outside the Bible can you supply that the events of the Conquest even ever occurred? How do you know the Israelites didn’t just evolve from the general population in Palestine the way genealogists and other scientists who have studied the DNA of the population say they did? Or the way archaeologists who can’t find a trace of evidence for the Conquest or the Exodus say they did? Or the way Bible scholars who say the stories were all plagiarized from other cultures say they did? Or the way the Palestinians themselves say they did? Or the way historians say they did? Millions of people supposedly wandered in the desert before the Conquest and not one grave site, not one camp site, not one religious site not even one potsherd has ever been found to support this story about people being fed by magic birds with magic food for forty years. You didn’t even know that and never even stopped to wonder if there was actually any evidence that could support these stories in the Bible. You just assumed it was there. Go find me some proof the events of the Conquest really took place just like the Bible says they did including the sun being stopped from going across the sky. When you find it get back to me. After you pick up your Nobel Prize that is because should you actually find anything you’ll be the first.

The reason the women were included in the “to be destroyed” command is because they led Israelites into sexual immorality – not simply because they were of a different religion. The young virgins were not among the guilty or vengeful. People of varying religions were always around the Israelites, but only the evil doers are ever faced with justice – legitimately.

Gurgus: During the Conquest this is almost always the reason given for all the ethnic cleansing supposedly done by the Israelites. Read your Bible man. Also all the animals were killed, they were not spared destruction. Read the story man.

The animals and the young virgins were NOT destroyed. Go back and read the story again Gurgus. I’ll quote the pertinent verses for you:

Numbers 31:9 – The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder.

The non-virgin women and males were killed – the young virgins and animals remained as described in the following:

Numbers 31:32-35 – The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, 61,000 donkeys and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

Gurgus: Does unnecessary animal cruelty bother you at all?

Kosher guidelines came from the Jews – and insure the most humane/sanitary treatment of animals. They are in a league of their own – they’re the cream of the crop.

Gurgus: How about the murder of women and small children?

From what I’ve read the people who did not want to fight a war against the Israelites were given a chance to flee and people who wanted mercy were given it. The people who wanted the Israelites destroyed fought…and they were the ones destroyed. The women were guilty. The male children had no care-taker left – they were mercifully killed rather than abandoned to the wild. The young virgins could serve the Israelites in peace and eventually could be child bearing mothers I suppose. — Also, the Midianites were fairly closely related to the Israelites I’ve read.

Gurgus: How about the rape of young girls who just witnessed their entire families get slaughtered by a Genghis Kahn like marauding band of looters and pillagers? Is that what you call being tamed?

Rape is a violation of God’s law and I have no reason to think that that was necessary for them to live in peace with the Israelites – for them to be tamed.

Gurgus: Do you really believe there is a God that would command and condone these atrocities?

Rape didn’t happen, and if it did those responsible will be brought to justice. The simple fact is that a immoral tribe at war with the Israelites lost – justice was served. The tribe didn’t have to face destruction, they could have ran away or begged for mercy – they chose to fight and they lost Gurgus. Why do you pretend this is some sort of illegitimate rampage on the part of the Israelites?

Gurgus: And you have the nerve to call me sick and delusional.

You are sick and delusional. Your wild and insane interpretation of this ancient war is just another straw on the already crushed camel’s back.

Gurgus: I don’t need a person who knows so little about their own religion and its holy book to tell me that I need to change my ways and start believing what they do.

You obviously aren’t well versed with the story or with sound, contextual interpretation.

Gurgus: You might want to read your Bible before you start initiating debates with atheists especially on the Internet because I can tell you most of them are former Christians and have read and studied the Bible a lot more carefully than you have.

I have just very clearly shown you to be wrong. You didn’t read the story carefully, I did.

Gurgus: You should have read your Bible thoroughly BEFORE you let other people put their own ideas about it in your head too. The Bible is the only book that people believe before they even know what it says. Like you have.

I strive to understand things myself, and not just take people’s words for it. I’m glad I didn’t take your word for it, because you were dead wrong.

Gurgus, as[good]Christians are concerned with the spiritual well being of others, and due to the topic of this particular show, I think I’ll put my machete down[Grin] and try to play the roll of peacekeeper here[because it's starting to look like the efforts of one would be appreciated here]and share a thought of mine with you, heretical as it may seem to some of the others who visit here.
You can be an Atheist if it pleases you, but also, try to be this…..
Ever strive to be a good man. Be fair and just, honest.
Be sympathetic and generous to others who are going through a hard time.
Avoid people who are a vexation to your spirit, people with habits and language that is cruder and unhealthier than your own.
Protect and try to help those that are weaker than yourself.
Don’t be a bully, but don’t back away from bullies who are tormenting others.
Never lose a sense of humility.
Be respectful of strange people and their strange ways.
Try and make other people desire to be better people themselves.

If you can do all of this throughout your life, or at least try to keep doing all of this throughout your life, then perhaps, just maybe, whether or not you ever come to recognize it and know it, you will have touched the face of God.
And when that day or night comes when you finally die, then perhaps that will be worth something when you face the Divine. And if not, and you as an Atheist simply disappear into oblivion, then you can take some satisfaction in knowing that while you lived you helped make this weird world of hardships and chaos a better place for those whom your existence touched.

Ah well, I tried[smile].

“The Copernican System, the Big Bang, Evolutionism, NASA’s extraterrestrial “exobiology” hype, are all deceptions fetchingly disguised as “science”. The hour of their exposure as such is on God’s calendar. HE calls it “The Fall of Babylon”, i.e., The Fall of Confusion about what is from God and is True and what is from the father of lies and is false.”

“The belief that the earth turns on an “axis” daily and orbits the sun annually is a carefully crafted Bible-bashing lie. All facts show a stationary earth.”

“God alone can (and will!) force the Non-Moving Earth Truths of the Bible and Science back on the world stage.”

Of course this fundamentalist Christian organization uses Bible passages such as these to prove their claim that the earth is stationary:
“The world also is established that it cannot be moved.” Psalm 93:1 “He…hangeth the Earth upon nothing.” Job 26:7

Any Christian apologists who want to claim the Bible does not posit a flat immovable earth cosmology need to convince their fellow Christian young earth creationists of that fact before they throw that baloney at atheists. At least the young stationary earth people make a very good case for what the Bible really says especially compared to the desperate and absurd arguments offered by Christian apologists that the Bible somehow agrees with modern science. These apologists always claim Christians have never really believed the earth was flat and or stationary. Of course they can’t explain the existence of this organization, The Association for Biblical Astronomy, The Flat Earth Society or any of the other Christian organizations that still cling to these archaic Bible based views.

I’m not sure what to think here, either you ascribe to the biblical notion that the earth is stationary or you didn’t bother to check your sources. It really is disingenuous to disagree with the Fixed Earth organization if one is really a Bible literalist and you are definitely one of them. Plus you could not have easily missed the name of this organization or what they stand for. If you did that says a lot about just how carefully you check you sources and demonstrates the hypocrisy of you claiming that I think anything atheist is good and anything Christian is bad. You’ll cut and paste ANYTHING negative ANY Christian says about atheism or science without checking your or worse their sources.

Considering the rest of the things that comprise your worldview however, I’m much more inclined to think you agree with the Fixed Earth organization and their claims that the earth is stationary. You wouldn’t plagiarize from a website you didn’t totally agree with. You are welcome to your literal biblical worldview and I would applaud your intellectual honesty on this one subject. To me it’s frightening that some polls show that as many as one out of five Americans hold this view and another nine percent weren’t sure. Only in America. However the people who promote this pseudo-science are Christian religious extremists and it can be shown that they use lies and distortions to further their religious agenda no matter what you think about the validity of their other beliefs. People who actually believe the earth is stationary and would go to such lengths as Fixed Earth does to promote this ridiculous idea (no offense) cannot be trusted. They have an obvious Christian extremist religious agenda. This includes fabricating indefensible lies only someone desperately wanting to be deceived anyway could believe. The problem with debating someone like you is that not only do you also fabricate falsehoods you believe other extremist’s falsehoods as well. It’s hard to discern precisely where the line between willful deception and self-deception lies with you. One thing is definitely apparent though: all of you creationists are connected to the same Internet websites and read and repeat the exact same lies and propaganda. Anyone can see where you have cut and pasted your arguments from. In a nutshell: Your claims that evolution influenced the thinking of the Nazis and the communists are plagiarized and cut and pasted from a website that promotes Christian young stationary earth creationism. Your and their religious agenda is as transparent as it can be. So are the falsehoods you both use to support it, your stationary earth dogma and the claims about the ideologies of the Nazis and communists.

For anyone who wants a really good laugh I suggest you google one of Fixed Earth’s pages: The Spiritual Roots of NASA’s Big Bang Premise.

I don’t appreciate the comparison to your “crazy” aunt Josephine. I think you’re treading on thin ice espousing the absurd views you do because someone might easily conclude that whatever your dear aunt has runs in the family.

I hope you have happy holidays too. You can give thanks to God and I’ll be thankful to my family and friends. It’s ironic that you should decide to take a vacation and then commit intellectual suicide for us all on this blog in your last post. Thanks for plagiarizing that material from Fixed Earth though. When I saw where you copied the material from I laughed harder than I had in a long time. I’m very familiar with this Christian fundamentalist organization and have been for years. They’re an almost endless source of amusement. One of the many good reasons atheists, stay atheists.

I can see where you would not be able to interpret what I wrote, after all the best you can do is a simple minded wooden literal interpretation of anything. I also said that the dollar would continue to weaken and put it on a 130 day count which specifically called for the USD to break to new yearly lows in the first week or two of November. From their it would continue its trek lower with it eventually breaking to new all time lows. THIS WILL HAPPEN, IT IS NOT A MATTER OF IF BUT WHEN. And since anything can happen in the short term to prevent such a fall, in the longer term (over the next 3 to 5 years) I fully expect the dollar to fall to 52 on the USDX. God help us if it goes lower. At some point the government will call for a devaluation, and that can happen overnight. Gold will finish the year strong, just as I predicted way back in May. Longer term (next 3 to 5 years) I expect gold to hit $3500 for higher.

For someone calling any aspect of the market these are pretty precise predictions as where my calls for unemployment to rise above 10% (higher in real terms) while government hacks were saying it would only get to 8.1%. Back when G. Bush was saying our economy was strong, I was saying it was in recession and headed for depression. This was before the government in June of 2008 stated that we had been in recession since Dec. 2007.

Bernie, I mean Gurgus, I feel like I am arguing with my crazy aunt Josephine, except I think she may have more periods of being lucid.

Merry Christmas and hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving both of which we all know are strictly non-Christian based holidays. Who do we give thanks to? The slimy ooze from which all life was created?

ADOLPH HITLER: (b. Adolph Schicklgruber, 1889; d. 1945.) It can be said without fear of contradiction that this man singlehandedly came pretty close to turning the world upside down for a few years. But what high test philosophy fueled Hitler’s cerebral engine? In short, what fundamental belief did Hitler have about his own and all of mankind’s origins?

Dr. Jerry Bergman, a college professor somewhere in Ohio the last I heard, put together information from various authorities showing important connections between Hitler’s Nazism and Darwin’s Evolutionism. A few quotations will make the accepted but rarely discussed point that Hitler’s Nazism was a calculated and deliberate plan to apply evolutionary “science” to government policy. Indeed, Darwinism was the heartbeat of Nazism as Hitler conceived it. Note Bergman’s findings:

“Adolph Hitler’s mind was captivated by evolutionary teaching–probably since he was a boy.”

“One of the central planks in Nazi theory and doctrine was…evolutionary theory…”, we read in another place.

The whole Hitlerian idea of the “master race” of “supermen” was based on the Darwinian principle of “survival of the fittest” which Hitler proposed to speed up by various policies. Jews and Blacks were singled out as retards on the evolutionary scale who must not be allowed to contaminate the more evolved, i.e., the more advanced “aryan master race”. (This was the ultimate effrontery, the unpardonable sin, as far as the Talmudic Jews were concerned. How dare he appropriate THEIR position on the subject of superiority and inferiority! That blankety-blank paperhanger–and the whole German people–will find out who is superior and who isn’t! They are going to pay and pay, and then pay some more for this effrontery!)

Dr. Bergman’s conclusion: “The evidence is very clear that Darwinian ideas had a tremendous impact on German thought and practice…. In fact, Darwinian ideas had a tremendous influence on causing WWII, the loss of 40 million lives, and the waste of about 6 trillion 1945 dollars. Firmly convinced that evolution was true, Hitler saw himself as the modern savior of mankind…. By breeding a superior race, the world would look upon him as the man who pulled humanity up to a higher level of evolution.”

NIKOLAI LENIN: (b. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov,1870; d. 1924.) Lenin, the first murderous communist dictator of the USSR said: “Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species bear no relation to one another, except by chance, and that they were created by God , and hence immutable.” (The heart of this statement is: “Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by God….”)

Lenin was “…a confirmed atheist, dedicated to the destruction of…all religious worship…he regarded Christ with undisguised hatred.”

On his desk Lenin had a statue displayed in a “prominent position for all to see…its vivid presence dominated the room.” (What kind of statue?)

It was a “…bronze statue of an ape gazing at an oversized human skull.” This symbolized the evolutionary core of Lenin’s atheism. It further symbolized the core of Marx’s Communism which Lenin set about imposing on Russia and much of the rest of the world. When Lenin died in 1924, control of the Soviet Union passed to Joseph Stalin.

Let’s glance at the role evolutionism played in Stalin’s mind (a mind, all agree, which conceived and carried out the calculated murder of at least ten–and more likely–twenty to thirty million people, mostly Christians):

JOSEPH V. STALIN: (b. IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH DZHUGASHVILI, b.1879; d. 1953; Following Lenin, Stalin ruled the Soviet Union with an iron fist for thirty years. From Landmarks in the Life of Stalin we read:

“At a very early age, while still a pupil in the ecclesiastical school, Comrade Stalin developed a critical mind and revolutionary sentiments. He began to read Darwin and became an atheist.”

G. Gludjidze, a boyhood friend of Stalin’s relates: “I began to speak of God. Joseph heard me out, and after a moment’s silence said: ‘You know, they are fooling us, there is no God….’”

Gludjidze reported: “I was astonished at these words. I had never heard anything like it before. How can you say such things, Soso?” he asked Stalin, who replied:

“I will lend you a book to read: it will show you that the world and all living things are quite different from what you imagine, and all this talk about God is sheer nonsense.”

“What book is that?” his friend inquired.

“Darwin. You must read it,’ Joseph impressed on me.”

A few pages later, another person who was in school with Stalin, said of what they were taught:

“…in order to disabuse [i.e., free from deception or error] the minds of our seminary students of the myth that the world was created in six days, we had to acquaint ourselves with the geological origin and age of the earth, and be able to prove them in argument; we had to familiarize ourselves with Darwin’s teachings.”

So, in plain words, the church school Joseph Stalin attended labored to get the Bible’s explanation for origins out of kid’s heads and fill those same heads with the evolutionary explanation for origins. And that was church school well over a hundred years ago! Education–public, private, church, TV, whatever–is THE tool for getting the evolution explanation for the origin of man and all else into peoples heads.

A quick note on how Mao Tse-tung made indoctrination into evolutionism his very first priority after the Communist victory in China in late 1949 is of interest, I think. See if you agree:

MAO TSE TUNG: (b. 1893; d. 1976) In a graduate school paper about the way the communists dealt with the 85% illiteracy problem in China, I found two things that stuck with me:

1) Mao’s method was quite resourceful given what he had to work with. He called it “Each One Teach One”. It was basically the idea that every literate person would teach an illiterate person and, as soon as the pupil learned enough to read and write he would then teach what he had learned to another illiterate person. Within a few short years the 85% figure was totally reversed…. It was quite an accomplishment given all the obstacles.

2) Being a Marxist and an atheist and a firm believer in evolutionism himself, Mao mandated that the reading material used in this early day “Great Leap Forward” in literacy would be the writings of Charles Darwin and other materials supportive of the evolution paradigm. Understanding modern China of necessity includes an understanding of the transference of this state mandated indoctrination into evolution-based atheism from one generation to another for more than a half century. The fact that Mao’s regime was responsible for the out-and-out murder of somewhere between 30 and 60 million people…many of them Christian missionaries and their flocks…does not suggest that all evolutionists are potential mass murderers, of course. However, it does strongly suggest that a passionate belief that man is just another evolved animal is a conviction that is fully capable of creating a mind-set which cheapens life and excuses whatever behavior and policies individuals may pursue, no matter how hurtful and even deadly that behavior and those policies may be to millions of other people. Indeed, one abiding result of this passionate belief in the evolutionary origins scenario–a result more evident in the lives of the Lenin, Stalin, and Mao than in Hitler–is an utter disdain–often escalating to outright hatred–of Christians in particular. One can see the source of this malevolence in a few facts about modern communism’s founder:……

So there you have it sir. Your opinion can differ from anyone elses but unless one can come up with the PROOF, as I have with my most accurate predictions, all we have are opinions. Yours are no better than the ones above. THIS ENDS IT AS I AM LEAVING ON A JET PLANE, DON’T KNOW WHEN I’LL BE BACK AGAIN…… I need a break.

You should have forgotten that because that statement proves that you are not only a liar but have been badly misinformed by the religious leaders you get your revisionist history from. I asked you to provide proof that these Nazis and communists mentioned evolutionary theory in the tenets of their ideology or their writings or speeches. You did not and could not provide this because no such literature exists nor did it ever. Yet you made this false claim anyway with no evidence at all to support it. Imagine that – a fundamentalist Christian making claims completely unsupported by evidence. Gee that never happens. Ha! Both the Nazis and communists rejected evolutionary theory as a bourgeois Western philosophy. That’s what their literature really says. Read it. No need to consider facts when you’re spewing fundamentalist Christian religious lies and propaganda is there Mike? The Nazis were young earth creationists and Stalinist Russia adopted a bizarre pseudo-science similar to the Christian Intelligent Design hoax called Lysenkoism. Neither of these political movements had anything to do with evolutionary theory. They both rejected it 100 percent. Matt already explained to you that the Nazis were fundamentalist Christians and had nothing to do with evolution. It’s one thing not to agree with those rebuttals, but quite another to go on repeating the argument as if no objections had been raised at all. This only proves what a shameless liar you really are. If you want to kill your chance at a substantive conversation with an atheist, demonstrate that you didn’t do any research ahead of time and spew a bunch of outright lies gleaned from creationist websites like you just did. Shame on you. The thing that clearly demonstrates the intellectual dishonesty of biblical fundamentalists is that even after they see their false claims refuted and their lies exposed the next conversation they get in on this subject they will again make these false claims and tell these very same lies in the hope that their new target won’t know how to refute them. I know your game very well. It’s called let’s hide our fundamentalist Christian lies with smoke and mirrors and repeat them ad nauseum.

Mike promised: “I will be away from my computer for the next month.”
Really? There may just be a kind and merciful God after all!

You said: “I made predictions nearly a year ago when Doug Tjaden was on TTL. I have also made precise predictions when Bernie, your alias, was ranting and raving. I put the US dollar on a count down and have stated that “this will be a cold winter for the USD.”

A cold winter for the U.S. dollar? Do you call that a precise and risky prediction? I checked that thread Mike and all your predictions were so vague they really didn’t say anything. I’ve already exposed the trickery you use to support your claims of having magical predictive powers. You are going to have to reinvent yourself now and pretend to be someone else you’re not.

You are paranoid and schizophrenic. I don’t hate Christians. Of course like most atheists I hate religion because I can see through all of its lies and sophistry and the damage it does to people and has done to our civilization.

It’s funny you should mention the phrase “biblical proportions.” That phrase has taken a modern definition that basically means “tall tales.” Kind of like your posts.

On this I agree whole heartedly.

I made predictions nearly a year ago when Doug Tjaden was on TTL. I have also made precise predictions when Bernie, your alias, was ranting and raving. I put the US dollar on a count down and have stated that “this will be a cold winter for the USD.” Then on top of it all I gave out some of my investments, providing the names of the companies, and all are up strong.

You statement that I am not precise, is delusional at best. What do you want me to do predict the rain and the number of drops that will fall on a precise area?

I’ve added b baggins to my emails. I just sent him introductory email and a few recent ones that I sent out. Most everyone that has gotten onto my email list has stayed with me. It grows each and every year even though I do not advertise anywhere. The folks that have taken my advice to heart are doing very well and like I said they sleep well at night knowing that their Ark is ready and will save them from the coming storms.

So rant and rave all you want. In my opinion you are one sick puppy. You hatred of Christians is unfounded. It is based on heart that is poisoned and miserable.

I get frustrated with people that choose to be blind like MattF and Kash, but at no time is my heart filled with venom. I feel sorry for such people as they are involved in their own destruction and the destruction of their children and grandchildren. They support a system that is corrupt to the core. I have family members that I love dearly that are of the same mindset. They cannot believe that the US is headed for a catastrophe of Biblical proportions.

Such individuals do not hate me although they get tired of my tirates against the system that is bringing on the greatest transfer of wealth in human history. The transfer will be from the poor / middle class to a few of the rich (Wall Street’s banksters); and from the West to the East.

So while I do get frustrated with MattF, kash, and some in my family; I am not full of hatred towards them or anyone for that matter, not even you. You on the other hand hate everything Christian. It is the HATE that comes through loud and clear. The same hate we saw with Bernie. It is truly sad as I know some atheist and none of them are so filled with this venom.

You are now on my list. I am going to be gone for the next month. If I have a chance I will send out a few as I will have access to a computer at my sister’s house. Next week the family will meet at a resort so I doubt I will send out much. I may be able to send some out Monday or Tuesday evening as some of my readers say they will go through withdrawal if they don’t get my email.

Right now I am packing my bags and getting ready but I will send something out to you ASAP.

If at any time you wish to cancel, I send a lot of information out sometimes 2 or more emails in a day, just let me know. You do not have to read all of them.

Mike.