we (christian) should be trying to teach them the truth about Jesus

I HAVE READ THE BOOK OF MORMON BUT IT IS A GOOD STORY BUT IT IS A POLLUTANT THAT HAS BEEN THROWN IN THE CHRISTIAN EQUATION WITH MANY OTHER CULTS AND ORGANIZATIONS SEEKING TO BECOME THE NEW VIEW OF GOD.

THE OLD VIEW HAS NOT BEEN PERFECTED.

JESUS IS THE CHRIST THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY AND I AM SAVE BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH AND JESUS CHRIST NOT BY RITUAL VICARIOUSLY IN A MAN MADE TEMPLE BYT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT FLOWING WATERS OF THE BELLY, BY THE WATER THAT DOESN’T LEAVE MEN THIRSTY!

A MINISTER WHO IS RECONCILING ALL UNTO A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST!

FAITH BRINGS PEACE AND JOY AND DOES A BODY GOOD!

I don’t think Jay, from what I know of him, is in one of the odd sects of Mormonism – I think he holds to what would be considered mainline LDS theology.

Perhaps Jay belongs to a unique “branch” of the denomination.

For example, down here we have locally at least four distinct “branches” of the Baptist denomination.If Jay is, then this would certainly help explain the discrepancy. What say you Jay? Just wondering.

Brigham Young said, “He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken–HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do.”

For a full understanding of the context in which this quote could be understood accurately if one decides to believe that Brigham held any such opinion, read Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1.pp. 96-106. Bear in mind also that it is considered an anomaly by many, something inconsistent with all his other teachings about God –which should make one think twice even as to the accruacy of the scribe who wrote it down. (Too bad they didn’t have better technology.)

“What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven.” Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50-51.

Anyone who is familiar with the multitude of statements and teachings of Brigham Young knows that he knew the difference between Adam and between God. This second quote which makes reference to the “same character that was in the garden of Eden” when one reads the entire reference preceding it, by the law of anticedents when one reads the sentence actually before it and by the fact that Mormons believe that God the Father walked and talked with Adam in the Garden until the fall, is put to rest when one realizes that this “character” was God the Father himself, not Adam.

It is Jesus who Brigham regularly taught was, through divine investiture, “our Father and our God and the only God with whom we have to do.” Search the words of the prophets. The temple endowment was something Brigham was intimately familiar with, and even this, given through revelation through Joseph Smith, does not mix up Adam’s role with the role of the Father.

The conclusion expressed by both Jay and those writing here that the Adam God theory was Brigham’s “opinion” does not conform with the body of Mormon, or Brigham’s, thought pattern and should not be found in a serious discussion about Mormonism.

Do keep the good work coming[toothy grin].

We’re all paying attention.

Anyway, to a definite non-Christian this is all very interesting and enlightening into the wonderfully weird world of Christian theology.Seriously.

Thanks!